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Облачные технологии в последние годы стремительно развиваются

при переводе в облако ИТ-инфраструктуры компаний и технологий поставщиков программного обеспечения. Мы попросили 4 ведущих поставщиков облачных программных решений для горнодобывающей промышленности присоединиться к нам в обсуждении того, какую пользу облачные технологии могут принести горнодобывающей отрасли и каково будущее облачных решений в сфере добычи полезных ископаемых.​



Федерико Арболеда (Federico Arboleda)
Директор по продажам Imago компании Seequent

Джоди Конрад (Jody Conrad)
Основатель и генеральный директор Krux Analytics

Дэвид Перес (David Peres)
Соучредитель и генеральный директор Minalytix

Алекс Пиенаар (Alex Pienaar)
Директор по продажам инфраструктуры Интернета вещей компании Bentley Systems

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<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />A warm welcome to everyone today.<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
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Today’s session we’re talking about The Future of Mining,</p>
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how cloud technology is enabling faster decisions</p>
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through automation and collaboration.</p>
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And today I have a panel of experts in the field</p>
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and we’re going to have a discussion on cloud technology.</p>
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And so Federico over to you,</p>
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would you like to introduce yourself?</p>
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<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />Thank you, Penny.<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
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Yeah, I’m Federico Arboleda, I’m the Founder of Imago,</p>
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but now 30 days ago we were acquired by Seequent,</p>
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so I’m now the Director of Imago Sales</p>
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based at the Phoenix, Arizona.</p>
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<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />David.<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
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<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />Hi, my name’s David Peres.<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
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I’m a Co-founder and CEO of Minalytix.</p>
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Our company has developed the world’s first software</p>
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as a service product for the management of drilling</p>
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and sample data.</p>
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<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />Thank you.<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
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<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />Hi, my name is Alex Pienaar and I’m the Director of Sales<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
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for Bentley Systems Infrastructure, IoT Department</p>
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based here in San Diego, California.</p>
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<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />Thanks Alex, and Jody.<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
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<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />Hi, I’m Jody Conrad,<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
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the Founder and CEO of Krux Analytics</p>
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based in Calgary, Alberta.</p>
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<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />Great, thanks everyone.<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
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And to kick off the discussion today,</p>
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let’s talk about what cloud native means to you.</p>
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So, David, what does cloud native mean to you?</p>
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<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />So I think to me, cloud native means applications<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
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that are designed to exist in the cloud</p>
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and that take advantage of, you know,</p>
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the benefits that the cloud offers.</p>
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Typically the architecture of these applications</p>
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is that they’re made up of a group of microservices</p>
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that are built into containers</p>
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and then each microservice</p>
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would kind of accomplish an individual task, if you will.</p>
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So it’s a way of segregating these various tasks</p>
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so that the impact of an error in one task</p>
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doesn’t necessarily diminish the performance</p>
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of the overall system.</p>
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These characteristics</p>
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also allow you to work on these various microservices</p>
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segregated from others, so that, you know,</p>
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it promotes a continuous integration,</p>
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continuous improvement sort of platform</p>
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that allows providers of these types of applications</p>
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to put out new updates and fixes to a large audience</p>
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on a very rapid and continuous basis.</p>
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<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />That’s great.<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
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And how does that differ other types</p>
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of cloud native environments?</p>
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<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />Sorry can I, I missed it?<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
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<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />Oh, how does cloud native,<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
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how does that differ to other types of cloud environments?</p>
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<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />Sure, so cloud native<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
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would mean that everything that you’re using and building</p>
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sits in the cloud, whereas,</p>
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you know, sometimes you might have a sort of hybrid approach</p>
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where you’ve got some desktop software</p>
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that may be pushing data into a database</p>
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or a data store that sits on the cloud.</p>
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A cloud native would have every application</p>
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sitting on the cloud</p>
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and make use of things like APIs, for example,</p>
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to speak with other cloud applications</p>
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so that customers who use these types of things</p>
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might be able to build entire workflows in the cloud</p>
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without a reliance on any kind of a desktop software.</p>
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<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />Okay, great.<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
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Federico did you have something to add to that?</p>
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<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />Yeah, I guess it’s important to know that traditionally,<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
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when we were kind of making a decision</p>
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to start an organization or a company</p>
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to serve the mining industry,</p>
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we were forced because of history to say, well,</p>
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are you going to be a desktop application</p>
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and work within the ecosystem of the company</p>
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or are you going to go cloud?</p>
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Now, it’s really hard to do this hybrid approach.</p>
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And it was a really hard decision for us initially,</p>
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five years to say, well,</p>
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are we going to take the bet and go cloud only</p>
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because the future of mining</p>
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and the future of all industries is cloud,</p>
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or do we try to appease the current status quo</p>
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which was this hybrid environment or this local environment</p>
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where, you know,</p>
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the mining organizations wanted their data stored locally.</p>
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And we took the risk and I think it’s paid off,</p>
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but it is a really hard decision to make</p>
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from the onset organization.</p>
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And that means that traditional organizations</p>
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will have been desktop based,</p>
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it’s a hard transition for them to make as well.</p>
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And to be really cloud native is a difficult thing</p>
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because that decision has to be made</p>
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and it just affects the entire architecture going forward.</p>
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<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />I can add to that as well.<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
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With cloud native, you know,</p>
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it’s sometimes hard to believe</p>
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that your data is in the cloud,</p>
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but you can still with a cloud application,</p>
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get your data into those local databases.</p>
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So it doesn’t mean it has to live in breathe there,</p>
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you can still take it out of the cloud.</p>
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The other thing</p>
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that’s really as an advantage for us building new software</p>
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with a truly cloud native product</p>
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allows us to spin up servers in new locations</p>
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and leverage other networks that already exist</p>
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to ensure speed and the customer experience</p>
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is consistent regardless of where they are.</p>
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<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />Great, thanks.<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
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Alex, what are the different forms of cloud services?</p>
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<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />Penny, so that’s a great question.<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
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And that leads off so well from the previous comments</p>
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made by my fellow panelists.</p>
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I’m going to answer it from an IoT perspective,</p>
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but every cloud deployment abstracts, pools</p>
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and shares scalable computing resources across a network,</p>
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and that’s commonly referred to as cloud computing.</p>
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And every deployment</p>
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is created using a unique mix of technologies</p>
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which almost always includes an operating system,</p>
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some form of management platform</p>
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and an application programming interfaces or APIs.</p>
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But when you look at the different types of cloud services</p>
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from an IoT perspective,</p>
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there are two main services of interest.</p>
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The first is infrastructure as a service or IaaS</p>
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which means a cloud service provider</p>
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manages the actual infrastructure on your behalf.</p>
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So the servers, the network,</p>
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the data storage, processing power provision</p>
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all of that infrastructure</p>
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is all provided to the user as a service.</p>
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The second type is software as a service</p>
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or SaaS as it’s more commonly known.</p>
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And this is where the software application itself,</p>
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which the provider manages, is delivered to the users.</p>
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Typically SaaS apps are web or mobile applications</p>
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that users can access via a web browser.</p>
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So software updates, bug fixes</p>
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and all other general maintenance of that application</p>
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are taken care of for the user by the provider.</p>
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this eliminates the need to install an application locally</p>
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and allows for greater methods of group or team access</p>
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to the actual software.</p>
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<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />Okay, so if all of that data<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
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is being managed by the cloud provider,</p>
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what does that mean for your data security?</p>
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Is this a risk for our customers?</p>
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Is it just a perceived risk?</p>
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Jody, do you want to take a stab at that.</p>
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<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />If you don’t mind,<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
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maybe I can just touch a little bit on Alex’s question.</p>
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If you don’t mind I just wanted to mention</p>
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that one of the things that I really I’m encouraged by,</p>
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and I think will happen</p>
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is that a lot of providers in our industry</p>
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will become API as a service.</p>
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So what they’ll do is they won’t have like a front end,</p>
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but I think that one of the things that will happen</p>
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is that you’ll be like a processing engine.</p>
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So you might get a file,</p>
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you do something with that file and then you return it,</p>
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but there’s no real interface to that end customer.</p>
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So this whole ecosystem of cloud services</p>
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will evolve to the point that people will just be able</p>
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to kind of use these providers</p>
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without having a physical interface there.</p>
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It’s just like a service</p>
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that will begin to be offered as well.</p>
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And I’m really excited about this API as a service</p>
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and what that can bring to the industry.</p>
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<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />Hmm, and it’s about connecting the data in the cloud<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
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between the different providers as well, isn’t it?</p>
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<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />That’s exactly.<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
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Yeah, that I think is going to be the key</p>
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is like, look at us here, you know,</p>
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we’re four different technologies</p>
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that can actually interact very easily and seamlessly</p>
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because of the services that are now available.</p>
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<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />And I just even echo that a little bit.<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
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I think what it does is it lends itself towards automation</p>
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and watching data flow through these sort of pipelines</p>
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without having to interact as Federico has said.</p>
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<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />Yeah, absolutely.<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
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So then data security.</p>
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So Jody, in your view, is there a risk around data security</p>
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for having all of this data</p>
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flowing through different providers in the cloud?</p>
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Yeah, or are there risks?</p>
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<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />Penny, it’s a great question.<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
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And at the end of the day, whether you’re using your own</p>
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internal on-prem desktop application</p>
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or you’re using a SaaS piece software,</p>
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you have to trust the person</p>
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that is managing that software for you.</p>
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So you need to trust the company that you’re going with,</p>
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that’s providing you that SaaS software</p>
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because they are handling that infrastructure</p>
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on the backend.</p>
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One of the key ways</p>
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to know that companies are taking that seriously</p>
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is very similar, there’s an ISO standard,</p>
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there’s SOC 2 certifications.</p>
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And really what that means</p>
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is that that company is entering a contract with you</p>
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to provide you with software.</p>
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And what they state in there is actually the service</p>
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and the level of security that they provide</p>
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and they’re being audited against that.</p>
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And so I think there’s a huge advantage going with SaaS.</p>
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And when we talk about the IaaS component</p>
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for infrastructure as a service,</p>
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most SaaS companies, Krux included,</p>
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is using Microsoft Azure,</p>
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some people are using Amazon web services, but these clients</p>
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probably have a more sophisticated data security</p>
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and infrastructure services</p>
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than you can provide locally yourself.</p>
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<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />I also think that there’s two components<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
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that are not fully discussed</p>
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when we talk about security in the cloud.</p>
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Well, one is what type of data is it that you’re handling,</p>
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like your cyber security teams review</p>
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and say, well, if it is maybe I’ll just imagery</p>
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because that’s what we manage.</p>
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Maybe a picture that doesn’t have that much security risk</p>
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as perhaps coordinates or an asset.</p>
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So that’s another part of the conversation</p>
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when we’re talking about cyber security protocols.</p>
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And then the other aspect that I think is quite important</p>
<p>[00:11:20.740]<br />
is that a lot of times the conversation focuses on risk</p>
<p>[00:11:24.070]<br />
of the data,</p>
<p>[00:11:25.101]<br />
but what about the risk of not using these technologies</p>
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and falling behind?</p>
<p>[00:11:29.640]<br />
What about the risk</p>
<p>[00:11:30.910]<br />
of not being able to harness the power of the cloud</p>
<p>[00:11:33.747]<br />
and the power of what we’re doing today?</p>
<p>[00:11:35.760]<br />
So it’s kind of like saying to us,</p>
<p>[00:11:36.830]<br />
well, it’s too risky to be doing this video together here</p>
<p>[00:11:39.100]<br />
in this conversation because people can see it.</p>
<p>[00:11:41.746]<br />
But the other risk is that we can’t share this video</p>
<p>[00:11:45.270]<br />
and what is more risky?</p>
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<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />So Federico you talk about the benefits<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
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of putting data in the cloud</p>
<p>[00:11:55.920]<br />
above the risk of not doing it.</p>
<p>[00:11:58.080]<br />
David what is the benefits</p>
<p>[00:11:59.850]<br />
of using applications in the cloud for our customers?</p>
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<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />Right, so I think we’ve touched<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
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on a couple of these things already.</p>
<p>[00:12:07.330]<br />
You know, we’ve spoken a little bit</p>
<p>[00:12:09.070]<br />
about the integration capabilities</p>
<p>[00:12:12.050]<br />
and the fact that if, you know,</p>
<p>[00:12:13.540]<br />
if you’re putting your data in the cloud</p>
<p>[00:12:15.624]<br />
it then affords you the ability to link that data</p>
<p>[00:12:19.040]<br />
and use it with various cloud providers</p>
<p>[00:12:22.210]<br />
to achieve a greater solution set</p>
<p>[00:12:25.140]<br />
than if you’re sort of doing things independently</p>
<p>[00:12:28.402]<br />
on a desktop sort of</p>
<p>[00:12:30.480]<br />
or network distributed type of solution.</p>
<p>[00:12:34.886]<br />
One of the big benefits</p>
<p>[00:12:36.327]<br />
and so as a sort of a cloud-first provider, you know,</p>
<p>[00:12:40.550]<br />
Minalytix as a company from day one</p>
<p>[00:12:42.610]<br />
we’ve taken the cloud first approach</p>
<p>[00:12:45.010]<br />
in terms of the vendors that we use.</p>
<p>[00:12:46.970]<br />
So as a small business,</p>
<p>[00:12:49.070]<br />
we were able to go and make use of products</p>
<p>[00:12:52.800]<br />
across the various parts of our business accounting,</p>
<p>[00:12:56.170]<br />
human resources and so on</p>
<p>[00:12:58.818]<br />
to stitch together a really incredible solution</p>
<p>[00:13:02.270]<br />
that’s all integrated and allows, you know,</p>
<p>[00:13:04.480]<br />
from our small perspective,</p>
<p>[00:13:06.660]<br />
it allowed our company to sort of accelerate really quickly</p>
<p>[00:13:10.460]<br />
without needing to hire an entire IT staff,</p>
<p>[00:13:12.930]<br />
without having to buy servers.</p>
<p>[00:13:14.300]<br />
You know, we’re a software vendor</p>
<p>[00:13:16.670]<br />
and we don’t own a server, you know,</p>
<p>[00:13:18.430]<br />
and this is something that could not have been possible</p>
<p>[00:13:21.580]<br />
prior to the cloud.</p>
<p>[00:13:23.113]<br />
You know, it really allowed us to accelerate.</p>
<p>[00:13:26.500]<br />
And if you think about the scale of a large scale company,</p>
<p>[00:13:29.627]<br />
obviously all of these things translate there as well</p>
<p>[00:13:32.500]<br />
and can make that a much better experience there too.</p>
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<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />Yeah, just to add to that, David.<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
<p>[00:13:40.400]<br />
You know, one of those benefits</p>
<p>[00:13:42.230]<br />
of using cloud-based technology or SaaS companies as well,</p>
<p>[00:13:46.240]<br />
is that reduced overhead for your organization.</p>
<p>[00:13:50.180]<br />
I mean, how many times are you going to field,</p>
<p>[00:13:52.430]<br />
you have a local data center</p>
<p>[00:13:54.402]<br />
and you have how many people managing that equipment</p>
<p>[00:13:57.970]<br />
that can all be taken away by using some SaaS softwares.</p>
<p>[00:14:01.140]<br />
And we similarly have used most SaaS based applications</p>
<p>[00:14:05.880]<br />
to run our business</p>
<p>[00:14:06.830]<br />
which has helped keep our overhead low</p>
<p>[00:14:09.110]<br />
and have more focus on the development in our software.</p>
<p>[00:14:16.770]<br />
<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />That’s good, so lots of benefits for our customers,<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
<p>[00:14:19.510]<br />
but what about for us in terms of software development?</p>
<p>[00:14:23.300]<br />
How does cloud-based technologies enable you</p>
<p>[00:14:26.600]<br />
to deliver better solutions to your clients?</p>
<p>[00:14:29.020]<br />
Alex, did you want to take that one?</p>
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<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />Yeah, thanks Penny.<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
<p>[00:14:33.000]<br />
And again, another great question.</p>
<p>[00:14:34.517]<br />
And it leads on so nicely from all of the other comments</p>
<p>[00:14:38.130]<br />
that we’ve had up to this point.</p>
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But, I was at a customer site not too long ago</p>
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and during my visit, the IT Department,</p>
<p>[00:14:46.090]<br />
they were running all over the site</p>
<p>[00:14:48.140]<br />
trying to find old Windows machines,</p>
<p>[00:14:51.647]<br />
trying to load a patch or some update that was identified</p>
<p>[00:14:56.180]<br />
or needed because of the vulnerability.</p>
<p>[00:14:58.670]<br />
And that just reminded me, as Jody said of the overhead</p>
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that is associated with on-premise systems</p>
<p>[00:15:04.330]<br />
and maintaining all of these legacy systems</p>
<p>[00:15:06.390]<br />
and all of these old servers</p>
<p>[00:15:09.800]<br />
that are needed to run these sensor networks</p>
<p>[00:15:11.720]<br />
because these, you know,</p>
<p>[00:15:12.553]<br />
some of the sensor technology is 30 years old.</p>
<p>[00:15:15.700]<br />
And I think that through the cloud</p>
<p>[00:15:18.010]<br />
we are able to innovate faster,</p>
<p>[00:15:19.911]<br />
we’re able to roll out new features faster.</p>
<p>[00:15:22.680]<br />
we’re able to globally roll out patches and fixes</p>
<p>[00:15:27.770]<br />
within hours after the need has been identified.</p>
<p>[00:15:31.600]<br />
And if that fix is applied, it’s rolled out universally.</p>
<p>[00:15:36.580]<br />
Customers no longer have to worry about compatibility</p>
<p>[00:15:39.130]<br />
and an upgrade dependencies</p>
<p>[00:15:40.566]<br />
because that’s all taken care of through the cloud.</p>
<p>[00:15:43.800]<br />
In effect, I’m seeing that our customer base, you know,</p>
<p>[00:15:47.840]<br />
they’re really jumping that S-curve</p>
<p>[00:15:49.450]<br />
in terms of efficiency and productivity.</p>
<p>[00:15:55.571]<br />
<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />You know, one thing that is also very interesting to add<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
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is our customers are in very remote locations.</p>
<p>[00:16:03.930]<br />
You know, they could be out in the middle of Africa</p>
<p>[00:16:07.110]<br />
or up in the middle of Finland and they’re connecting</p>
<p>[00:16:10.260]<br />
via very, very low bandwidth satellite communications.</p>
<p>[00:16:14.850]<br />
And everybody thinks, oh, no, no,</p>
<p>[00:16:16.820]<br />
the cloud is not appropriate because they’re so remote.</p>
<p>[00:16:19.340]<br />
But what about the difficulty of establishing a network</p>
<p>[00:16:23.810]<br />
under those conditions of bringing in people and specialists</p>
<p>[00:16:26.860]<br />
to maintain that hardware and those servers</p>
<p>[00:16:29.130]<br />
under those conditions?</p>
<p>[00:16:30.630]<br />
So, as we know, technology and bandwidth</p>
<p>[00:16:33.350]<br />
is improving that cellular communications</p>
<p>[00:16:35.250]<br />
and really it’s no longer an issue.</p>
<p>[00:16:37.300]<br />
So the challenge is like saying,</p>
<p>[00:16:38.740]<br />
well, is it harder for that customer</p>
<p>[00:16:41.440]<br />
to maintain that hardware infrastructure,</p>
<p>[00:16:42.920]<br />
that IT infrastructure locally under servers,</p>
<p>[00:16:45.190]<br />
or is it easier for them to get bandwidth communication?</p>
<p>[00:16:49.700]<br />
And I think that’s something</p>
<p>[00:16:50.570]<br />
that is becoming easier and easier to understand</p>
<p>[00:16:53.750]<br />
that you can deliver those level of service</p>
<p>[00:16:56.730]<br />
much easier to these remote locations as well,</p>
<p>[00:16:58.823]<br />
than in the past and that we can do the continuous upgrades</p>
<p>[00:17:01.930]<br />
and the patches that you were actually mentioning.</p>
<p>[00:17:04.110]<br />
So it’s kind of like a win-win.</p>
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<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />Absolutely.<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
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What about the adoption curve of cloud technology</p>
<p>[00:17:15.770]<br />
in the mining sector?</p>
<p>[00:17:18.640]<br />
Federico, have you seen a change</p>
<p>[00:17:21.770]<br />
in a shift towards the cloud in the mining sector?</p>
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<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />Yeah, I think that, you know,<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
<p>[00:17:28.230]<br />
before it was kind of like everyone</p>
<p>[00:17:30.340]<br />
who was coming out of school would ask the question</p>
<p>[00:17:32.870]<br />
why aren’t we using cloud,</p>
<p>[00:17:33.730]<br />
why isn’t it as simple as with our digital devices?</p>
<p>[00:17:38.840]<br />
Like, why isn’t it as easy to connect with people</p>
<p>[00:17:41.020]<br />
and do the jobs that we’re doing as we do in our iPhones</p>
<p>[00:17:44.030]<br />
in our current schools, students were asking that.</p>
<p>[00:17:46.270]<br />
Now I see that it’s the managers</p>
<p>[00:17:48.990]<br />
and the people who have been there for awhile</p>
<p>[00:17:50.470]<br />
who are beginning to ask that same questions.</p>
<p>[00:17:52.640]<br />
So I definitely,</p>
<p>[00:17:54.070]<br />
in seeing that adoption curve getting easier,</p>
<p>[00:17:56.870]<br />
especially nowadays with COVID</p>
<p>[00:18:00.608]<br />
it has actually gotten much, much, much simpler.</p>
<p>[00:18:04.560]<br />
Actually as well,</p>
<p>[00:18:05.970]<br />
the technology makes it run faster as well, right.</p>
<p>[00:18:09.870]<br />
Because I used to work for another company</p>
<p>[00:18:12.700]<br />
that was a desktop based store.</p>
<p>[00:18:14.370]<br />
And I remember having to deploy that technology</p>
<p>[00:18:16.840]<br />
and having to send people to site for 20 days</p>
<p>[00:18:19.680]<br />
to prepare the infrastructure, to train the people,</p>
<p>[00:18:21.840]<br />
to do all these things that we needed to do</p>
<p>[00:18:23.670]<br />
to get them going.</p>
<p>[00:18:24.990]<br />
And so the fact that we can,</p>
<p>[00:18:26.790]<br />
all of us here on this conversation</p>
<p>[00:18:28.280]<br />
can now deploy in hours versus weeks,</p>
<p>[00:18:31.610]<br />
means that that technology adoption is happening faster,</p>
<p>[00:18:34.610]<br />
is actually fostering faster</p>
<p>[00:18:36.500]<br />
because the technology allows that to happen.</p>
<p>[00:18:42.490]<br />
<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />And if I could just add onto that,<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
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I think earlier in the conversation,</p>
<p>[00:18:47.990]<br />
Federico said that as cloud provider,</p>
<p>[00:18:50.940]<br />
cloud first providers or cloud native providers,</p>
<p>[00:18:53.910]<br />
we had to make a decision</p>
<p>[00:18:55.080]<br />
whether we would go all cloud at the beginning, you know,</p>
<p>[00:18:57.800]<br />
when we started these companies and built these products,</p>
<p>[00:19:00.750]<br />
and I can say it was a tough decision</p>
<p>[00:19:02.730]<br />
and at the time we were discussing like hybrid</p>
<p>[00:19:06.010]<br />
because, you know, six, seven years ago,</p>
<p>[00:19:09.560]<br />
people were still a little bit nervous about the cloud</p>
<p>[00:19:11.886]<br />
and a number of companies that we spoke to early on</p>
<p>[00:19:15.090]<br />
said, oh, we’ll never adopt the cloud.</p>
<p>[00:19:17.260]<br />
Well, I’m happy to say that some of them are now customers.</p>
<p>[00:19:20.600]<br />
So you’re seeing a definite change.</p>
<p>[00:19:26.970]<br />
<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />Yeah, for sure we’re seeing that at Seequent as well.<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
<p>[00:19:30.069]<br />
definitely a shift of industry.</p>
<p>[00:19:34.400]<br />
Let’s talk about the future.</p>
<p>[00:19:35.793]<br />
Jody, what opportunities within the mining industry</p>
<p>[00:19:39.473]<br />
do you see in the future with cloud-based technology?</p>
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<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />That’s a great question, Penny.<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
<p>[00:19:48.980]<br />
It really is limitless of where we can go.</p>
<p>[00:19:51.640]<br />
I mean, I look back to my days in the oil and gas industry</p>
<p>[00:19:54.870]<br />
and we used to go out and install satellite dishes</p>
<p>[00:19:58.100]<br />
on every rig so that we could have real live streaming data.</p>
<p>[00:20:02.130]<br />
Well, with the new stuff,</p>
<p>[00:20:03.820]<br />
coming out with the new satellite internet,</p>
<p>[00:20:05.956]<br />
the better connectivity just across the world,</p>
<p>[00:20:09.827]<br />
the opportunities are growing every day.</p>
<p>[00:20:14.023]<br />
and that connectivity,</p>
<p>[00:20:15.604]<br />
the ability to get items into remote locations.</p>
<p>[00:20:19.730]<br />
So I’m excited for what’s happening.</p>
<p>[00:20:22.670]<br />
I mean, some of the data</p>
<p>[00:20:24.850]<br />
and the ability to get live data out of the field</p>
<p>[00:20:28.810]<br />
has existed in other industries for a period of time,</p>
<p>[00:20:32.500]<br />
but it’s only going to get easier,</p>
<p>[00:20:33.850]<br />
which is going to make that adoption</p>
<p>[00:20:36.610]<br />
easier for mining to take on.</p>
<p>[00:20:42.156]<br />
<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />Yeah, that’s a great comment, Jody.<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
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And one of the things that excite me about the future</p>
<p>[00:20:47.390]<br />
is the interoperability.</p>
<p>[00:20:50.190]<br />
And I think Federico mentioned that, but just sharing data,</p>
<p>[00:20:54.340]<br />
I mean, data move through applications via APIs</p>
<p>[00:20:57.310]<br />
is the exciting part to me.</p>
<p>[00:20:59.132]<br />
Today we can move data</p>
<p>[00:21:01.270]<br />
from sensemetrics to Seequent flawlessly</p>
<p>[00:21:05.430]<br />
that was a very manual process in the past,</p>
<p>[00:21:09.040]<br />
required USB drives and Excel spreadsheets</p>
<p>[00:21:12.160]<br />
and a lot of data wrangling to enable that connection.</p>
<p>[00:21:15.950]<br />
And today all of that is possible</p>
<p>[00:21:17.860]<br />
through the power of APIs.</p>
<p>[00:21:22.568]<br />
<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />Yeah, also I think I’ll add,<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
<p>[00:21:25.640]<br />
sorry, just to add to that, Alex.</p>
<p>[00:21:27.870]<br />
I agree with that completely.</p>
<p>[00:21:29.750]<br />
And the other piece about it</p>
<p>[00:21:32.260]<br />
is I’ve always said you should use the right tool</p>
<p>[00:21:34.820]<br />
or the right software for the job.</p>
<p>[00:21:36.920]<br />
Each software has a specific purpose and provides value,</p>
<p>[00:21:41.120]<br />
but the data as a whole</p>
<p>[00:21:42.520]<br />
is still required to run your operation.</p>
<p>[00:21:44.960]<br />
You’ll see a huge shift</p>
<p>[00:21:46.670]<br />
for many companies that used to use ERP systems</p>
<p>[00:21:49.750]<br />
that are now looking for more cloud based SaaS applications</p>
<p>[00:21:53.040]<br />
that they can bring it back</p>
<p>[00:21:54.310]<br />
to one central reporting platform</p>
<p>[00:21:56.350]<br />
and APIs are going to allow us to do that.</p>
<p>[00:22:00.796]<br />
<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />What I find really neat and interesting<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
<p>[00:22:04.250]<br />
is that before, what the industry was trying to do</p>
<p>[00:22:07.710]<br />
was build like one single system that did everything.</p>
<p>[00:22:11.130]<br />
So it did mine planning, it did geology,</p>
<p>[00:22:13.130]<br />
it did environmental, it did database</p>
<p>[00:22:15.330]<br />
and they kind of had a monopoly on that site</p>
<p>[00:22:18.280]<br />
of all the tools that were available.</p>
<p>[00:22:20.810]<br />
What the cloud is enabling for me</p>
<p>[00:22:23.120]<br />
is kind of like these little niche specialists come into play.</p>
<p>[00:22:26.630]<br />
And because these niche specialists</p>
<p>[00:22:27.980]<br />
can now talk to each other,</p>
<p>[00:22:29.700]<br />
it means,</p>
<p>[00:22:30.533]<br />
that you can actually have best of breed technologies</p>
<p>[00:22:31.960]<br />
in this little segment</p>
<p>[00:22:33.660]<br />
and then you can begin to offer a better value proposition</p>
<p>[00:22:37.870]<br />
than the larger all encompassing system</p>
<p>[00:22:41.150]<br />
that does everything, but it does it mediocrely, right.</p>
<p>[00:22:43.630]<br />
So now a lot of providers</p>
<p>[00:22:44.930]<br />
can do these little niche activities,</p>
<p>[00:22:47.274]<br />
but do it very, very well</p>
<p>[00:22:49.270]<br />
and therefore we can compete as a whole,</p>
<p>[00:22:52.780]<br />
as a whole ecosystem with the traditional players.</p>
<p>[00:22:58.290]<br />
And that means as well,</p>
<p>[00:22:59.530]<br />
that it’s better for the customer, right.</p>
<p>[00:23:01.170]<br />
Because the customer now is not monopolized, I guess,</p>
<p>[00:23:06.869]<br />
has more opportunity for innovation</p>
<p>[00:23:08.934]<br />
and insights to new tools</p>
<p>[00:23:11.070]<br />
because of this new ecosystem that the cloud enables.</p>
<p>[00:23:17.650]<br />
<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />Yeah, and for me, it’s all about the outcome.<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
<p>[00:23:20.950]<br />
So what’s the outcome of it?</p>
<p>[00:23:22.120]<br />
So we’re connecting all this data in the cloud,</p>
<p>[00:23:24.360]<br />
we’re being able to bring it together,</p>
<p>[00:23:25.630]<br />
you’re able to use niche applications</p>
<p>[00:23:27.560]<br />
to do the job that you want to be able to do.</p>
<p>[00:23:29.740]<br />
And the outcome for the customer</p>
<p>[00:23:31.070]<br />
is being able to make better decisions in a faster way.</p>
<p>[00:23:34.420]<br />
So David talked about the power of the cloud,</p>
<p>[00:23:37.000]<br />
enabling automation.</p>
<p>[00:23:38.770]<br />
And the reason why we want to automate things</p>
<p>[00:23:41.350]<br />
and remove those manual processes</p>
<p>[00:23:43.245]<br />
is because they take months in order to get to a decision.</p>
<p>[00:23:47.870]<br />
And so by automating data,</p>
<p>[00:23:49.740]<br />
having data flow through the cloud</p>
<p>[00:23:51.794]<br />
in a connected way across all of the different applications</p>
<p>[00:23:56.040]<br />
that do a specific task,</p>
<p>[00:23:58.300]<br />
means that ultimately at the end of the day</p>
<p>[00:24:01.390]<br />
is that there’s communication, there’s collaboration</p>
<p>[00:24:05.250]<br />
and there’s better decision-making internally on data</p>
<p>[00:24:09.970]<br />
which is known and a decision can be made.</p>
<p>[00:24:17.210]<br />
<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />I also think that with the automation<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
<p>[00:24:19.560]<br />
and removal of some of the menial data management tasks</p>
<p>[00:24:22.560]<br />
and pushing files here and there,</p>
<p>[00:24:24.460]<br />
you’re allowing your highly educated professional workforce</p>
<p>[00:24:28.410]<br />
to spend more time innovating</p>
<p>[00:24:30.100]<br />
and thinking of the next way to solve a problem</p>
<p>[00:24:32.870]<br />
or a better way to solve a problem than just pushing paper.</p>
<p>[00:24:39.530]<br />
<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />Yeah, exactly.<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
<p>[00:24:40.680]<br />
Or using Excel to manipulate data (laughing).</p>
<p>[00:24:43.230]<br />
<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />Correct (laughing).<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
<p>[00:24:44.970]<br />
<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />Which, you know, I wonder what’s going to happen, right?<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
<p>[00:24:47.460]<br />
Because I wonder if now that you can do these work,</p>
<p>[00:24:51.530]<br />
these types of jobs remotely,</p>
<p>[00:24:53.000]<br />
we’ll begin to have like specialists teams</p>
<p>[00:24:55.140]<br />
now that you can maybe outsource these tasks</p>
<p>[00:24:59.352]<br />
to compile that group of work</p>
<p>[00:25:01.426]<br />
and do it maybe in a remote location.</p>
<p>[00:25:02.890]<br />
So a large mining organization can then say,</p>
<p>[00:25:05.230]<br />
have like a geotechnical team and that’s all they do,</p>
<p>[00:25:08.190]<br />
and they do it from a central location,</p>
<p>[00:25:10.190]<br />
I don’t know, in Brisbane,</p>
<p>[00:25:11.023]<br />
that’s the name of nice city of the world,</p>
<p>[00:25:12.940]<br />
and therefore you don’t have to have a distributor,</p>
<p>[00:25:16.050]<br />
you can actually begin to centralize</p>
<p>[00:25:17.310]<br />
and bring those efficiencies.</p>
<p>[00:25:19.600]<br />
<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />Absolutely.<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
<p>[00:25:20.580]<br />
And you think about the potential cost savings</p>
<p>[00:25:22.700]<br />
for fly in fly out operations.</p>
<p>[00:25:24.480]<br />
When, you know, sensor technology</p>
<p>[00:25:26.580]<br />
continues to get better</p>
<p>[00:25:27.870]<br />
and imagery continues to get better in video</p>
<p>[00:25:30.698]<br />
and keeping people at home with their families</p>
<p>[00:25:34.010]<br />
and giving them the ability to work in remote locations</p>
<p>[00:25:36.858]<br />
from these nice spots is going to attract, you know,</p>
<p>[00:25:40.070]<br />
talent into the mining industry.</p>
<p>[00:25:42.050]<br />
A lot of talent didn’t show up at the mining industry</p>
<p>[00:25:44.440]<br />
because they didn’t want to fly away for three weeks</p>
<p>[00:25:47.260]<br />
and leave their families behind</p>
<p>[00:25:48.595]<br />
or have to go work in some of these remote locations</p>
<p>[00:25:51.560]<br />
that may be, you know, in the case where I live in Canada,</p>
<p>[00:25:54.290]<br />
could be minus 45, minus 50, you know.</p>
<p>[00:25:57.380]<br />
So I think that there’s some really neat opportunities</p>
<p>[00:25:59.690]<br />
coming down the pipe for the, you know,</p>
<p>[00:26:02.530]<br />
the people that are going to be graduating</p>
<p>[00:26:03.880]<br />
and coming into this space.</p>
<p>[00:26:08.588]<br />
<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />Yeah, that’s an excellent point.<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
<p>[00:26:09.560]<br />
And it’s something really to think about it</p>
<p>[00:26:11.260]<br />
’cause we’re seeing it in other areas of specialty</p>
<p>[00:26:13.940]<br />
is like companies who do adopt cloud technology</p>
<p>[00:26:16.770]<br />
and make it easier for people to work from home</p>
<p>[00:26:20.100]<br />
or work in other locations</p>
<p>[00:26:22.387]<br />
are going to be the ones that attract those resources</p>
<p>[00:26:25.730]<br />
more than companies that require you</p>
<p>[00:26:27.990]<br />
to be working in a minus 45 degree weather,</p>
<p>[00:26:32.310]<br />
somewhere in the middle of nowhere (laughing).</p>
<p>[00:26:39.600]<br />
What about COVID, has COVID changed that situation at all?</p>
<p>[00:26:42.440]<br />
Or has it brought light onto the subject</p>
<p>[00:26:44.470]<br />
or have we seen a difference in adoption because of COVID,</p>
<p>[00:26:48.080]<br />
how’s COVID affected the way people use</p>
<p>[00:26:52.150]<br />
and view the cloud, Federico?</p>
<p>[00:26:55.950]<br />
<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />Well, I guess I can share my personal experience.<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
<p>[00:26:59.079]<br />
I don’t know if the others can comment,</p>
<p>[00:27:00.470]<br />
but from our experience is since January,</p>
<p>[00:27:03.830]<br />
we kind of duplicated insides</p>
<p>[00:27:06.360]<br />
and it’s very sad that it was because of COVID, you know,</p>
<p>[00:27:08.850]<br />
that actually made this happen,</p>
<p>[00:27:10.600]<br />
but I think it does show what the future entails, right.</p>
<p>[00:27:13.890]<br />
I think that remote working</p>
<p>[00:27:16.050]<br />
is going to continue to be the trend</p>
<p>[00:27:19.303]<br />
and we’ll continue to do that.</p>
<p>[00:27:21.730]<br />
So these types of technologies enable remote working</p>
<p>[00:27:25.340]<br />
and they’re here to stay.</p>
<p>[00:27:27.940]<br />
So COVID has actually helped the adoption of our solution,</p>
<p>[00:27:31.740]<br />
for sure.</p>
<p>[00:27:32.630]<br />
I wonder what do you…</p>
<p>[00:27:33.463]<br />
Was it the same for the others in the group?</p>
<p>[00:27:37.740]<br />
<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />I can say that absolutely we saw a similar sort of rise<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
<p>[00:27:42.010]<br />
in customer base based on COVID, you know,</p>
<p>[00:27:45.140]<br />
which again, you know,</p>
<p>[00:27:46.050]<br />
it’s a really sad thing to have happened, obviously.</p>
<p>[00:27:48.230]<br />
And I think it just put a light on the fact that, you know,</p>
<p>[00:27:52.170]<br />
it’s important to be able to work in this fashion.</p>
<p>[00:27:54.845]<br />
And I’ll say that in the exploration industry,</p>
<p>[00:27:57.625]<br />
people needed this anyway, you know,</p>
<p>[00:28:00.480]<br />
if you look at the typical exploration project,</p>
<p>[00:28:03.300]<br />
you’ve got some people at site, maybe logging core,</p>
<p>[00:28:06.450]<br />
you’ve got a project geo running it</p>
<p>[00:28:08.190]<br />
from say a Vancouver head office.</p>
<p>[00:28:10.170]<br />
You might have somebody looking at the QA/QC</p>
<p>[00:28:12.739]<br />
on assay data from somewhere in Australia,</p>
<p>[00:28:16.330]<br />
they were already working like this.</p>
<p>[00:28:18.120]<br />
I think this just sort of hit the fast forward button</p>
<p>[00:28:21.850]<br />
on things a little bit.</p>
<p>[00:28:25.490]<br />
<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />Yeah, just to, you know, to add onto that,<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
<p>[00:28:28.150]<br />
there was a great joke that made the rounds</p>
<p>[00:28:30.840]<br />
about what inspired or what drove you</p>
<p>[00:28:33.120]<br />
or your digital transformation strategy,</p>
<p>[00:28:35.130]<br />
was it the CTO, was it the CEO, or was the COVID?</p>
<p>[00:28:38.744]<br />
And then the answer (chuckles) was COVID.</p>
<p>[00:28:41.240]<br />
So, you know, we’re seeing in our space</p>
<p>[00:28:45.220]<br />
something practical as, as you know,</p>
<p>[00:28:47.420]<br />
the number of seats that can be occupied in the truck</p>
<p>[00:28:49.570]<br />
to go out to the field and take a measurement</p>
<p>[00:28:51.795]<br />
and take a reading.</p>
<p>[00:28:52.900]<br />
In the past, you know, four seats,</p>
<p>[00:28:55.660]<br />
now two, sometimes one,</p>
<p>[00:28:57.490]<br />
and just that limit on resources</p>
<p>[00:28:59.080]<br />
is something that you don’t always think about</p>
<p>[00:29:01.101]<br />
but it certainly impacts your time to getting that data</p>
<p>[00:29:04.127]<br />
and your time to decision making.</p>
<p>[00:29:08.010]<br />
<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />Yeah, similar to everyone else here, we grew,<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
<p>[00:29:11.960]<br />
we doubled almost tripled in size in the last year.</p>
<p>[00:29:14.520]<br />
So again, COVID for us actually drove more adoption</p>
<p>[00:29:18.310]<br />
and it actually brought more collaboration</p>
<p>[00:29:20.360]<br />
and I’m sure everyone else had the same experience.</p>
<p>[00:29:23.460]<br />
But there’s geologists sitting at home now</p>
<p>[00:29:26.530]<br />
that at the end of the day</p>
<p>[00:29:28.660]<br />
can see how many meters were drilled on site yesterday</p>
<p>[00:29:31.100]<br />
and what happened, which they couldn’t do before</p>
<p>[00:29:33.890]<br />
unless they were physically on site</p>
<p>[00:29:35.420]<br />
or call someone to get an answer.</p>
<p>[00:29:37.110]<br />
So it’s definitely driven the adoption</p>
<p>[00:29:39.990]<br />
and there’s that need for it.</p>
<p>[00:29:42.560]<br />
So yeah, it is definitely helped push that along.</p>
<p>[00:29:50.010]<br />
<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />Yeah, we certainly saw an uptake<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
<p>[00:29:52.280]<br />
in the use of cloud technology at Seequent as well, so.</p>
<p>[00:29:57.844]<br />
<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />Let me-<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /><br />
<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />One last question,<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
<p>[00:29:58.921]<br />
oh, sorry, go ahead.</p>
<p>[00:30:01.710]<br />
<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />I was just kind of questioning, right.<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
<p>[00:30:04.020]<br />
Like we know, if you’ve heard on LinkedIn</p>
<p>[00:30:07.870]<br />
or read on LinkedIn</p>
<p>[00:30:08.703]<br />
that maybe minerals are the new oil, right.</p>
<p>[00:30:11.187]<br />
And so the economy is going to transition</p>
<p>[00:30:12.980]<br />
that we’re going to require more and more metals for evolution.</p>
<p>[00:30:19.066]<br />
And how is that going to happen without efficiencies, right?</p>
<p>[00:30:23.450]<br />
So if we continue driving the same systems</p>
<p>[00:30:26.860]<br />
that you’ve been driving historically,</p>
<p>[00:30:29.830]<br />
I don’t think that the level of growth</p>
<p>[00:30:33.789]<br />
will get us there.</p>
<p>[00:30:35.780]<br />
However, you know, the adoption of these new technologies</p>
<p>[00:30:38.260]<br />
like the digitalization of these workflows</p>
<p>[00:30:43.170]<br />
to these cloud technologies is showing to be the answer,</p>
<p>[00:30:46.740]<br />
not just because of COVID,</p>
<p>[00:30:47.840]<br />
but I think it is the answer to be cut</p>
<p>[00:30:49.770]<br />
to bring these efficiencies to this science.</p>
<p>[00:30:52.710]<br />
<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />Hmm, yeah, that’s a really good, good point<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
<p>[00:30:57.290]<br />
that you raised, Federico.</p>
<p>[00:31:01.030]<br />
I have one last question I was going to ask,</p>
<p>[00:31:03.450]<br />
and it really just comes back</p>
<p>[00:31:04.920]<br />
to what advice we can give companies</p>
<p>[00:31:07.784]<br />
who maybe aren’t using the cloud yet</p>
<p>[00:31:11.450]<br />
or maybe are starting to look at cloud technologies,</p>
<p>[00:31:14.002]<br />
how do they get started?</p>
<p>[00:31:16.940]<br />
And just any kind of tips for them.</p>
<p>[00:31:23.850]<br />
David, did you want to answer first?</p>
<p>[00:31:25.640]<br />
<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />Sure, I can.<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
<p>[00:31:26.520]<br />
Yeah, absolutely.</p>
<p>[00:31:27.620]<br />
So I think one thing to keep in mind</p>
<p>[00:31:30.200]<br />
is that the barrier to entry with a cloud native application</p>
<p>[00:31:35.710]<br />
is quite a bit less than say something that’s on prem.</p>
<p>[00:31:38.490]<br />
There’s no, like Federico mentioned earlier,</p>
<p>[00:31:40.700]<br />
you don’t have to hire a consultant to come to your site,</p>
<p>[00:31:44.200]<br />
spend some time analyzing what you do</p>
<p>[00:31:46.390]<br />
and then fitting the solution</p>
<p>[00:31:47.980]<br />
and making sure that you have the infrastructure in place</p>
<p>[00:31:49.880]<br />
and everything like that.</p>
<p>[00:31:50.713]<br />
And then that doesn’t become something</p>
<p>[00:31:51.780]<br />
that you have to maintain.</p>
<p>[00:31:53.110]<br />
So in terms of trying out something, you can get in</p>
<p>[00:31:58.100]<br />
and you can try all these types of software quite easily</p>
<p>[00:32:01.280]<br />
with fairly minimal effort.</p>
<p>[00:32:03.510]<br />
And then you can start to see outcomes pretty quickly</p>
<p>[00:32:07.670]<br />
and determine how that’s going to impact your business</p>
<p>[00:32:10.780]<br />
or benefit your business</p>
<p>[00:32:11.818]<br />
without turning it into a six month long project</p>
<p>[00:32:16.170]<br />
or anything like that.</p>
<p>[00:32:20.359]<br />
<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />I kind of, your question brought a conversation<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
<p>[00:32:24.134]<br />
I recently had with a colleague after our acquisition,</p>
<p>[00:32:27.454]<br />
which may not specifically</p>
<p>[00:32:29.140]<br />
be how to get started with the cloud,</p>
<p>[00:32:31.070]<br />
but her comment was, you know,</p>
<p>[00:32:34.097]<br />
«now that Imago is part of a larger organization,</p>
<p>[00:32:39.440]<br />
how will it transform»?</p>
<p>[00:32:42.690]<br />
And I guess what this change means</p>
<p>[00:32:45.850]<br />
is that we can get to a larger audience quicker,</p>
<p>[00:32:52.790]<br />
but it’s also important</p>
<p>[00:32:53.910]<br />
for these companies that are getting started</p>
<p>[00:32:55.780]<br />
is that they support all the smaller organizations</p>
<p>[00:32:59.490]<br />
that are getting started as well.</p>
<p>[00:33:02.060]<br />
So I think one important thing to get started with cloud</p>
<p>[00:33:04.310]<br />
as well is just make sure</p>
<p>[00:33:05.760]<br />
that you give everyone who’s in cloud chance,</p>
<p>[00:33:08.108]<br />
not just the larger players, right,</p>
<p>[00:33:10.500]<br />
because the richer the ecosystem</p>
<p>[00:33:12.020]<br />
the better we’re all going to be.</p>
<p>[00:33:17.838]<br />
<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />I can add to that as well.<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
<p>[00:33:20.610]<br />
You know, like David’s point</p>
<p>[00:33:22.250]<br />
is a lot of cloud technologies are easy to trial,</p>
<p>[00:33:24.740]<br />
they don’t take a month to implement,</p>
<p>[00:33:26.370]<br />
you can have the software up and running</p>
<p>[00:33:28.470]<br />
and run a couple of reports</p>
<p>[00:33:29.830]<br />
and see if the system works for you or not.</p>
<p>[00:33:32.350]<br />
It’s the best to just get in there and try it out.</p>
<p>[00:33:36.290]<br />
Again, touching to my point, you know,</p>
<p>[00:33:38.058]<br />
with the risks of cloud based technologies</p>
<p>[00:33:40.710]<br />
and people’s fear of data security, again, it’s trust.</p>
<p>[00:33:44.580]<br />
And to Federico’s point,</p>
<p>[00:33:45.690]<br />
some of these small companies getting started</p>
<p>[00:33:47.800]<br />
they’re not going to have all of the infrastructure</p>
<p>[00:33:50.930]<br />
or some of the, you know, audit capabilities yet,</p>
<p>[00:33:55.110]<br />
but if you trust them</p>
<p>[00:33:56.310]<br />
and they tell you that they’re securing your data,</p>
<p>[00:33:59.730]<br />
that it’s encrypted at rest, you have to trust these guys,</p>
<p>[00:34:04.130]<br />
you have to trust people and experience the software</p>
<p>[00:34:07.080]<br />
because that’s where the benefit is going to come for you.</p>
<p>[00:34:10.030]<br />
And again, also judge on what data needs to be protected</p>
<p>[00:34:13.830]<br />
and what level of protection you need.</p>
<p>[00:34:21.209]<br />
<encoded_tag_open />v -<encoded_tag_closed />That’s good.<encoded_tag_open />/v<encoded_tag_closed /></p>
<p>[00:34:22.850]<br />
Thank you everyone for being here today.</p>
<p>[00:34:25.291]<br />
Before, we kind of close out,</p>
<p>[00:34:27.410]<br />
did anyone have any closing comments</p>
<p>[00:34:28.930]<br />
or anything to add to the discussion</p>
<p>[00:34:31.340]<br />
that I haven’t asked questions about</p>
<p>[00:34:34.130]<br />
or any last pieces of information?</p>
<p>[00:34:42.560]<br />
Nope, all good, okay.</p>
<p>[00:34:43.693]<br />
(all laughing)<br />
<p>[00:34:46.327]<br />
Well, thank you to our panelists for being here today</p>
<p>[00:34:49.460]<br />
for the great discussion</p>
<p>[00:34:51.050]<br />
and for our audience, thank you for joining us.</p>
<p>[00:34:55.530]<br />
And we look forward to seeing you</p>
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for the rest of the Lyceum sessions.</p>
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